Autism Rates in California Have Skyrocketed Following Mandatory Vaccination Bill

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  1. Clark says:

    Why not post your sources? I want those sources so I can vet the info you provide. Without sources, you could just be making up a narrative that suits your agenda. Please provide sources.

  2. Brian says:

    Uh… Your own source contradicts this article, and the unvaccinated develop autism at the same rate as the vaccinated so it’s obvious that vaccines don’t cause it.

    • admin says:

      Where did you figure this out? There has never been a vax vs. unvaxxed study done. So what you are saying makes NO SENSE!! There might be other reasons except vaccines. That might be true. I believe myself that it is environmental and not just vaccines. But if you have proof of autism being the same rate in vaxxed and unvaxxed population I think you would be the hero of the CDC. So please show me….

  3. Brian says:

    I’ve never understood why people say “There has never been a vax vs. unvaxxed study done”.
    Of course there have! Scientists aren’t stupid. They’ve looked at these things multiple times, in multiple ways. There have been tons of studies, looking at vaccines both individually and in combination, from many different angles, and these studies have been independently replicated all over the world.

    Here are a few examples-
    —Taylor et al. (1999) studied 498 children in the UK showing no difference in autism rates or age at ASD development based on vaccination
    —Makela et al. (2001) studied 500,000 children in Finland showing no difference in autism rates or age at ASD development based on vaccination
    —Madsen et al. (2002) studied 500,000 children in Denmark showing no difference in autism rates or age at ASD development based on vaccination
    —Hviid et al. (2003) studied 450,000 children in Denmark showing no difference in autism based on thimerosal in vaccines
    —Verstraeten et al. (2003) studied 125,000 children in the U.S. showing no difference in autism and other disorders based on thimerosal in vaccines
    —Miller et al. (2004) studied 100,000 children in the UK and found no difference in autism and several other disorders based on thimerosal in vaccines
    —DeStefano et al. (2004) studied 2,500 children in the U.S. showing no difference in autism rates based on vaccination
    —Smeeth et al. (2004) studied 5000 people in the UK and found no difference in autism and several other disorders based on vaccination
    —Honda et al. (2005) studied 300,000 people in Japan showing no difference in autism rates based on vaccination
    —Fombonne et al. (2006) studied 28,000 children in Canada showing no difference in autism rates and other developmental disorders based on vaccination
    —Richler et al. (2006) studied 300 people with autism in the U.S. and found no difference in regressive autism rates based on vaccination
    —Uchiyama et al. (2007) studied 900 people with autism in Japan and found no difference in regressive autism rates based on vaccination
    —Price et al. (2010) and DeStefano et al. (2013) studied 1000 children in the U.S. and found no difference in either classical or regressive autism rates, or other forms of ASD, based on thimerosal or other ingredients in vaccines
    —Kuwaik et al. (2014) studied autism rates among those who had older siblings with autism, showing no difference based on vaccination even with genetic predispositions to autism
    —Jain et al. (2015) replicated the study with 95,000 people and got the same result
    —Baxter et al. (2015) showed that, when using the same diagnosis criteria, the autism rate was the same 25 years ago as it is today
    —Gadad et al. (2015) showed no difference in autism rates in rhesus monkeys based on vaccination, and their brains were dissected just to make certain. Also, this study was funded by anti-vaccine groups
    —Taylor et al. (2014) performed a meta-analysis (better than double-blind studies!) with 1,250,000 people, showing no difference in autism rates based on vaccination

    • admin says:

      If all these studies are so great. Why didn’t Boyle say anything when asked before the US congress? I mean especially the DeStefano one is a CDC study. So must be a really shitty one if even the managers don’t want to use their research. Must all be bullshit this list of yours. And further DeStefano is th one that presented the now very fraudulent and racists study on MMR that was chopped and rewritten to make sure the public would never find out the autism link. That DeStefano…. https://youtu.be/uNWTOmEi_6A

      • Brian says:

        Boyle was trying to answer a scientific question to a scientifically-illiterate politician trying to bait her. It’s like trying to explain calculus to someone who doesn’t know arithmetic. Boyle was saying that a specific type of study hadn’t been done, and it shouldn’t be done for good reasons.

        1) It would necessarily harm the test subjects
        2) It’s against the law to do those types of studies in the U.S. with human subjects
        3) Nothing new would be learned that hasn’t already been learned from the mountains of data we have in the other studies.

        “And further DeStefano is the one that presented the now very fraudulent…”
        No it wasn’t. So far, there’s no evidence that anything in the study is fraudulent, and it was never retracted as such. Brian Hooker made the accusation, but in an ironic twist, his “reanalysis” paper was retracted as fraudulent when it was discovered that he did the math wrong. When the math was corrected, it didn’t reveal anything different than DeStefano’s original paper. It’s very telling that this critical fact was never mentioned in Wakefield’s and Hooker’s anti-vaccine film.

        • admin says:

          Well then let’s get William Thompson subpoenaed then. This shouldn’t be a problem if there isn’t anything to hide. Seems weird that the pharmaceutical lobby has been trying hard to stop this fro happening. Just like Thompson was stopped from testifying in a court case for Robert Kennedy. Because it would be damaging to the CDC. I mean if there’s nothing to hide SUBPOENA THOMPSON !! Easy way to debunk me and all the other VaxXed believers…

          • Brian says:

            William Thompson can speak whenever he wants. He doesn’t have to be subpoenaed. Seeing how there still isn’t any evidence of fraud, wasting taxpayer money to force him to talk to science-illiterate politicians helps nobody. We already know that the anti-vax crowd lies and misquotes and distorts Thompson’s words already. If you want examples, feel free to ask.

            Instead of calling for Thompson to be subpoenaed, why isn’t the vaxxed crowd calling out Brian Hooker for lying about his own son’s medical history in the film?

          • admin says:

            Wrong mate. Thompson can’t just talk because it is classified documents from a government agency that he works for. If he talks knowingly he will be done for treason. So that’s why he needs to be subpoenaed. Why aren’t we calling out Brian Hooker? You can if you want. I don’t see any reason why we should. This whole blame game that the PV community with big pharma is playing is laughable. If this whole movie is bullshit. Why not take Bigtree and Wakefield to court? If Hooker lies why not sue him? Why is none of this happening? As far as I can see the only thing that is happening is government and pharma interests stopping anything from moving along. We have misquoted Thompson, have distorted his quotes? Subpoena him and let him have his say. Or let him talk without fear of treason. It is that easy. If ll of what you are saying is true. It is very easy. Let Thompson talk… But your mates at big pharma and the CDC won’t let that happen. What does that tell you?

            Anyway. Time to shut this down I think. I have tried with reasonable arguments to show what is really happening here. If you want to say more. Wait until we have more facts. Like after Thompson talks. Until then I think it will be good to agree to disagree.

          • Brian says:

            Personally, I’d love to see Wakefield subpoenaed, but he always runs away from any place where perjury laws apply.

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